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The recent clash between Douglas Murray and Dave Smith on Joe Rogan’s podcast exposed deep cracks in the conservative movement. Murray, a British intellectual and staunch defender of Israel, squared off against Smith, a libertarian comedian who called Israel’s actions in Gaza “genocide.” The fight wasn’t just about foreign policy—it was about who gets to speak for the Right.
Murray accused Rogan of giving airtime to unqualified “armchair experts” pushing conspiracy theories. He argued that real-world experience matters, especially on life-and-death issues like terrorism. Smith shot back, claiming free speech means anyone can debate ideas without needing fancy degrees. Rogan later mocked Murray’s own credentials, saying experts are “wrong all the time.”
Here’s the truth: Murray didn’t demand Oxford diplomas. He warned that dismissing expertise entirely leaves us vulnerable to lies. When Smith—a Jewish man—parroted Hamas talking points, he betrayed his people. Israel isn’t committing genocide. It’s fighting jihadists who burn babies. Murray knows this because he’s been on the ground, smelling the smoke of terror attacks.
Rogan’s “both sides” approach failed. Letting comedians debate wars like it’s open mic night muddies the waters. Facts aren’t opinions. The Biden administration’s weakness emboldened Iran to fund Hamas. Weakness on our own airwaves does the same.
Murray’s correction hits hard: Experts have failed us. But replacing them with YouTube hot takes isn’t the answer. Real experience—like Murray’s years covering Middle East conflicts—still matters. Smith’s “anti-war” stance ignores reality: Peace comes through strength, not surrender.
Conservatives must reject this false choice. Yes, coastal elites mock flyover country. But trashing all expertise lets the left win. Common sense and hard-earned knowledge built America. Dismissing both as “elitist” is a trap.
The real divide? Patriots vs. pretenders. Murray fights for Western civilization. Smith’s “libertarian” act platforms anti-American lies. Rogan’s refusal to pick a side helps the enemies of freedom.
This debate proves conservatives need clarity, not chaos. Support allies like Israel. Champion free speech—but fight for truth. Reject lazy populism masquerading as principle. The survival of the West depends on it.
