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The recent clash between Douglas Murray and Dave Smith on Joe Rogan’s podcast exposed deep divides on the Right. Murray, a staunch defender of Israel, faced off against Smith, an anti-Zionist comedian, in a fiery debate over the Gaza conflict. Rogan later slammed Murray for “elitist” arguments about expertise, siding with Smith’s anti-establishment stance. The feud highlights a growing split between traditional conservatives and anti-war libertarians.
Murray argued that Rogan platforms unqualified voices who spread dangerous misinformation about Israel. He warned that comedians like Smith trivialize complex issues by reducing them to punchlines. Smith fired back, claiming free speech means anyone can criticize Israel—even without degrees. Rogan agreed, mocking Murray’s own lack of formal expertise on Middle East politics.
The debate took a personal turn when Smith, who is Jewish, accused Israel of “genocide” in Gaza. Murray condemned this as a betrayal, stressing that Hamas terrorists—not Israel—are the real war criminals. He reminded listeners of Hamas’ atrocities: burning babies, raping women, and taking hostages. Smith doubled down, calling Israel’s blockade of Gaza “collective punishment” against Palestinians.
Rogan later blasted Murray for “gatekeeping” political debates. He argued that appeals to experts backfired during COVID and should be challenged. Murray countered that Rogan’s platform gives conspiracy theorists credibility they don’t deserve. The host shot back: “Unless you’re Shakespeare, shut the up.”
Murray clarified his stance, saying experts have failed but experience still matters. He cited his decades reporting from war zones versus Smith’s comedy sketches. Smith mocked this as elitist, saying patriots don’t need Ivy League degrees to spot government lies. Rogan cheered this populist message, calling it “common sense.”
The fallout reveals a crisis on the Right: Should conservatives defend institutions or burn them down? Traditionalists like Murray warn against abandoning expertise entirely. Populists like Smith say trusting elites got us open borders and endless wars. Rogan’s millions of listeners now face a choice—order or chaos?
This isn’t just about Israel. It’s about whether truth exists or everything’s a joke. Murray warned that dismissing facts helps China and Iran undermine America. Smith laughed, saying both parties serve globalists anyway. Rogan sighed, “We’re so screwed.”
Hardworking Americans deserve better than smug academics or cynical comedians. Real leadership means fighting for truth without apology—like Murray does. But Rogan’s right: elites have failed us. The solution isn’t burning it all down. It’s rebuilding with common sense, faith, and the courage to call evil by its name.
